3. What did you listen to when you started ultrarunning? What do you listen to now? If they are different, what do you think influenced that change?

My running playlist is all over the place. My playlist includes Pop, Rock, Instrumental, Hip Hop, Rap, etc. Since I've started trail running more, I listen to more audiobooks, podcasts and even silence. I think I've changed my music because I try to focus on the surroundings more. I've started having music as my background soundtrack rather than my main motivation to keep moving.
4. Do you have a specific running playlist?

I do have a specific playlist but I'm old school and have the music locally on my phone.














5. What are some things you think are very specific to the ultrarunning community as it relates to sound/music? In other words, what would non-runners not understand about how ultrarunners listen to the sounds around them?
I think for me, headspace is really important. When I can run and let my mind wander, that's when I'm in a flow. Music can help put my mind in that space. I have specific songs that I listen to when I start running to put myself into that space.

6. What are your future goals or race plans?

My next project is to solo trail run Kings Peak (Highest Point in Utah) in a day. I also want to run my first 100 miler. Probably in 2026.
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